When it comes to workplace injuries, who is responsible for their prevention – and do some people bear more responsibility than others?
It’s not a matter of belief. It’s the law. Employers are responsible for preventing people (their employees, visitors and the self-employed working for them) getting sick and hurt at work. They have the power to make changes, organise how the work is done and decide what tools and equipment those working for them use. That’s the rule when it comes to employment law (called management rights), which people tend to forget when it comes to health and safety. There’s a long history to how this opinion/approach has come to be.
You are correct that the employer has a responsibility to protect the health and saftey of their employees, but what you failed to mention is employees have responsibilities to. They must follow the work rules, participant in the training and at all times be aware of the risks in the workplace.
No workplace is without risk. How we as employees interact with the workplace is the key to preventing injuies and acccidents.
There are precautions to minimize risk, but you can’t always prevent. I work in a jail. We take precautions, but minimized risk is still risk. There is always some risk.
We can try to reduce the risks of injury,but nature is relentlous in it’s desire to thin out the herd.Once we have protected all the people prone to injuries,well you know where I’m going with this.We do have to try to protect them though, it is in our nature ! I know I have had incidents where I should have been more aware of my surroundings. Again it is just nature doing what it does best!
You cannot prevent all accidents as you cannot control human behavior or unexpected occurances. I have done accident reports for persons who have fallen walking on flat, dry pavement. Shall we retrain them in walking? The best we can do is reduce the odds.
But you need to look further – really get to the root cause. Why did they trip? Was it because their are tired, distracted, stressed from work? Other than random acts of nature, there is always a way to prevent accidents.
Safety is everyones responsibility, we can do our part to create a safe place.Furthermore, I believe that anyone would put the resposibillity solely on the company is very irrisponsible and are passing the buck. Finally work safe and go home alive.
Everyone must take an active role in the prevention of workplace accidents. To say that you cannot control human behaviour is taking a negative stance. I have yet to see an incident where there was absolutely nothing that could have been done to prevent it. There is always some preventable cause. It’s just a matter of digging down and finding out what is was. Walking on flat, dry pavement? Were shoelaces untied? Was the victim distracted by something else in their immediate area? Accident prevention is a mindset. If you go in with a positive mindset, you will be able to prevent injury. If you go in thinking ‘there was nothing that could have been done’, the accident will repeat itself (if it hasn’t already).
I agree that everyone must work together to prevent accidents, however it is also true that you cannot control human behaviour nor can anyone predict the future or identify all possible accidents. Its impossible. The problem with ‘trying’ to think of all possible negative occurances is that we end up trying to eliminate all risk entirely. Which is also impossible. Every single aspect of life has risk attached to it.
I mean if we all wanted to be much safer at work, we should all just work from home and not risk an accident on the way to the job site or office, however the problem with working from home at a computer is increased risk of tendonitis, heart desease etc. Not to mention that is also possible that your house might collapse due to an earthquake or fire, unfortunatly firefighters wont be able to come help you because to enter a burning building is extremely risky. You see where I’m going with this.
The biggest problem that I see happening with companies trying to mitigate risk is that they start coming up with rules upon rules to impose on its workers, and then when another near-miss or occurance happens, another rule is made to try to prevent it from happening again. Unfortunatly while this is a noble cause, no accident is ever exactly the same and new rules cannot guarantee the prevention of the next accident.
What happens instead is that workers, bogged down with rules upon rules have learned that their own safety is not in their hands at all, but in the hands of these rules imposed on them, as a result these workers become less accustomed to identifying new risks and finding their own workarounds, but are more accustomed to just following the rules.
I totally Disagree. Changing peoples behaviours comes down to something called safety culture. Safety culture is the way the company and all its employees deal and think about safety. When you are hired by a company you assimilate into that culture whether you realize it or not. If the culture and attitudes towards safety are good or bad that new worker will become what the pre existing attitudes are.
Companies with good safety cultures have less accidents, more productivity, and ultimately are better places to work for. There is always a chance of some freak accident that cannot be for seen but when you start looking at a majority of workplace fatalities and injuries there is usually always a couple small things that could have prevented them from happening.
Workplace Health and Safety has alot of misconceptions. Safety is something positive that gives us rights as workers and also makes companies more responsible for providing training, safe working conditions, and the best equipment for us as workers.
Something workers in alot of countries don’t have an oppurtunity for.
“It’s a dangerous business, Bilbo Baggins, Walking out your front door”
I believe both employees and employers have a responsibility to ensure a safe environment. I know there are exceptions to every rule but in order to maintain one’s own safety are we not responsible to use common sense and be aware of our surroundings.
The only way that workplace accidents, or any accidents at all can be prevented is if we completely remove any possibility of injuries happening. Walking on flat pavement is a possibility of being at risk of injury. You could trip by yourself, with absolutely nothing preventing you from walking. You could suffer a sudden migraine headache that causes you to fall over and smash your skull.
TLDR: To prevent people from any sort of accident, put everyone in an impenetrable bubble.
work place safety is everyone’s responsibility. all injuries are preventable in a work place. if everyone took precautions then the injuries wouldn’t happen
When employers and employees show due diligence, accidents can and will be prevented. At the very least they should never re-occur. When incidents are investigated, the investigation must include a solution. When an incident occurs, it’s easy to assign blame, but when you really think about the solution, there’s always one or two steps that could have been taken to ensure safety.
More 50% of all incidents are the result of unsafe behavior… it is importants as managers and leaders we demonstrate peoper behavior. If leaders are demonstrating proper behavior and contribute to a good safety cultre incidents can be prevented. Its about what people believe in. We are able to anything we set our minds to. If everyone is willing take on responsibilty and work as a team all incidents can be prevented.
Safety at what cost? We are loosing our rights! statistics show seat belts save lives so lets make people where their belts. Helmets save head injurys lets make people on peddle bikes where helmets. Were will it stop? Hard hats save skull fractures, lets make everyone where hard hats even outside with nothing overhead except the sky. Wake up!
Absolutely – the only way to be successful in any company is to work as a team! If you see a hazard, report it, or correct it, but don’t ignore it. Having a Safety Officer is important, as it is their job to do all they can to make sure employees are safe. Just like anything else there are exceptions, and accidents aren’t planned; but if everyone works together to watch over each other, then you have a better chance of being safe every day.
Yes Safety is Everyone’s Responibility – at home, at play, at work on the road. That is why we have a phrase called “Defensive Driving”. We are all responsible. Don’t take unnecessary risks. Getting up in the morning is a risk and staying in bed is a risk. So it is all about managing risk and if we all have the same goals in our risk management, then we will be a safer place to walk, play, work, live – so we can all enjoy life to the full.
I believe that this whole debate is an attempt to make workers soley responsible for any accident that occurs. If there were truly never any ‘accidents’ the word would not exist. Things happen that are outside of our control, for example if you are the first of the day to arrive at a work site you may be faced with icy conditions. While you would attempt to correct the situation upon your arrival you are still facing dangerous conditions in doing so. Accidents will always happen and not necessarily anyones fault, thus the word accident.
This debate topic is not about the controlling of hazards, its about whether or not its everybody’s responsiblity. Of course you cannot control human behaviour but the purpose for having Health & Safety Representatives and Joint Health & Safety Committee’s in Ontario is to help bring awareness to the workers. Of course, there will always be the human behaviour aspect. People being rushed, people not caring, people not paying attention, but thats how people are. The only thing we can do is get an idea into peoples head’s about safety and that everyone plays a part in it. I think we could save thousands of lives from workplace accidents if we all realized that we are all in one way or another responsibile for safety.
It’s called an accident for a reason. I think this debate is a huge waste of money, absolutely ridiculous. How many people could have been fed with the funds used to “debate” this topic?
That’s why we call them workplace incidents. Accidents are very rare. Any task if properly planned, assessed and carried out according to the plan can be executed safely!
Accidents will always happened regardless of all the possible preventable measures anyone can take, however lots can and has been done to lessen the hazards through education and training. The weak link in this chain is our physical condition (muscle tone,strength and flexibility). I know that our physical fitness level is a huge factor in this equation and one that should be at the top of the list.
What do i think?… I think people with no construction back round, or concept of doing a job they know nothing about should stop. But all this Safe Work campaign is making everday people think that they can do any job. Common sence play the biggest part on any job site, and some people dont have it, and they wonder how they got hurt.
I,ve spent twenty years working within different sectors of the heavy equipment and heavy commercial sectors and have gone from being the worker that just got things done to a person who thinks of how this is safe and have trained myself to do even last minute hazard assessment of any task I do. Looking back at every injury I’ve had there has always been a preventive measure and sometimes I knew it. All injuries are preventable but most times the preventions cost time and money short term, long term they actually save money and in the end make you money with a reputation for competant and careful workers.
Even in the world of aviation, where pilots take Safety Management Systems, Pilot Decision Making and Crew Resource Management courses, accidents still happen. It is completely unrealistic to think that all accidents could be prevented. You can take reasonable steps within budgetary limits and that’s it.
Why do all your adds promote a confrontational message????? Everyone wins when you work together. Leo.
It’s confrontation becuase, unfortunately, not everyone agrees with you Leo. I think you’re right and I think that’s what there trying to do. Working together is the only way.
Unless you lock everyone in a padded cell & close down all industry I do not believe you can prevent all accidents. Even then there would be individuals that would still devise a way to have an accident. Lets use common sense and education / training before we rule our selves to death and bring productivity to a halt or price our nation out of the competitive world economy. No I do not own a business, but still work in the work force close to retirement.
Rules & guide lines can definitely help but before making them give serious thought to overall consequences. I have seen situations where rules have been made too hastily and created a new hazard. Sometimes those in the position to make new rules do so with lack of actual experience in the specific situation or worse still feel they just need to be seen as doing something unfortunately not always the right thing.
Lets get some common sense back in all areas, the Work Force, the Supervision, Management, & Workplace Health and Safety.
Somewhere there is a reasonable balance, but to say you can prevent all accidents would be utopia: not realistic. Having said that does not mean we quit trying; just look past the end of our noses and give some serious thought before we act.
I agree, you can’t bubble wrap society. Enough is enough – I agree with jrh – people will find a way to hurt them selves even if they were wrapped in bubble wrap in a padded room. There is a point when all the rules will slow work and create new problems and injuries – we are nearing that point in many work places now. sjd
Alot of accidents are due people rushing because they feel pressured by the boss to get the job done. Employers should be a little more realistic with their expectations and all that is involved in completing the job. Many employers have never had to do the work that they are expecting to be completed quickly. This is where many accidents can happen. I also find that lack of sleep is causing people to be less aware of their surroundings and potentially dangerous situations that normally they would see.
I think most if not all are preventable but in reallity I think that will never happen. every incident or accident has a cause, a way of preventing it from happening and a way of controlling the outcome. there are many ways this can be done but the ways that most happen are due to unforseen, overlooked or poor judgement. humans are bound to either make mistakes or overlook the root cause of an accident/incedent whether its equipment failure or human error. Designing, training, knowledge and implimenting proper controls are the best way of reducing the potential of these happening. let all do our best to take these steps
What an incredible waste of money this whole campaign has been.
I completely agree. I just saw the TV add again. I’m frustrated and embarrassed. This useless debate offers nothing in real efforts to reduce injuries. Take it off the air and quit wasting money. You are doing more harm to Safety & Health culture than good.
Someone is giving you bad advice on how to manage change.
Another failed attempt.
So quit trying? This debate gets people pushing what they expect from their jobs. I work in this industry and most safety campaigns can be improved – so can this. BUT this gets people expecting to be safe at work. Society has come a long way in preventing injuries and we have way more to go.
Funny how you are here posting a comment on how stupid it is. It obviously got your attention. Wanna guess how many others have tuned in to this “stupid” campaign?
It’s all about creating awareness.
This has not got my attention> I have always been concerned. This is a lame campaign and I would be negligant if I did not speak out. I look at the website to see if there is improvement or understanding. If you think my commenting means the campaign has any worth or has engaged me you have no understanding of the issues. This campaign offers nothing in the way of information. I can’t believe this is still being funded!
you can have thousands looking at this dumb debate but in the end nothing has been accomplished.
Why not do reruns of Hands & Fingers & Knees and Toes!
Always Concerned and even more frustrated.
I think this campain is needed. I am a Worker rep and and I totally disagree that this campain is supid.
Jackwood your being paid by this stupidity why would you not think this is good..instead of waisting all the money on advertisement etc. and put it towards coming up with healthy solutions on how to make it safe and answer workers questions on what they should do instaed of telling them to come up with solutions.
ur smart need a traning
Because it has directly prevented a single injury? If so, how?
I think the greatest workplace hazard is the common cold. What can we do to stop workplace transmission?
I do agree with most of the peoples’ responses, however, the fact remains that accidents happen, and that’s why the Workers’ Compensation Boards of Canada were created. I too believe this debate is a waste of money, and ongong propaganda by the WCB’s of Canada and those that have a vested interest! This is just another way that the WCB’s of Canada are trying to profit & decieve the workers of this great nation. It’s time for the WCB’s and employers of Canada to suck it up and take responsibility for all the injured workers’ & their respective families, whom suffer right along side of them. No one wants to get hurt on the job, but it simply happens and that’s the costs of doing business. You have to take the bad with the good.
I see this campaign everywhere. I applaud what it is trying to do. Trying to tell workers to pay attention to their safety. Trying to tell bosses to pay attention to safety. Trying to tell everyone accidents are prevetable – all of them. But we will never get there. And we should never stop trying.
I hate the short guy in the red, but i like what he is saying.
At the end of the day, it IS the workers responsibility to prevent any incidents. An accident is something that can’t be forseen or prevented. Workplace incidents can always be prevented, you just have to use some common sense and stop blaming everyone else because you weren’t careful enough to prevent your own injury.
I agree the worker have the responsibility to keep there work area clean and as safe as possible. However as long as there is the human element you will NEVER be able to prevent all accidents.
Just how simple does Workplace Safety and Health think the average Manitoban is? Any employer who truly embraced safety culture change and improvement should be offended by this lame attempt to jumpstart what we employers should already be doing. But within that debate I’d like to hear how the responsibility of the employee will be reinforced by WCB for an employee that chooses to ignore the risk assessment, safe work practice and training that is provided to them. The current WCB reward system is out of phase for holding those employees that are not participating at the levele required to truly avoid all injuries. Perhaps we should question why In BC why the WCB is referred to as entitlement officers. Nice Message. You want employees to take this as seriously as the employer then hold them accountable as well!
these stupid ads make it sound like accidents don’t happen, yeah it is partly the workers responsibility to stay safe. But if a worker, in most jobs considered unsafe is keeping constant watch for danger to occur it keeps them from doing there actual job. Things happen in life, we are human. not everyone has lightning quick reflex’s to move out of the way, some things happen spontaneously others systematically. But in the end we are not robots, we are human and accidents occur in life that can’t always be prevented.
Workers must be allowed to have controled failures, not ones that cause injuries, in order to learn and recognize the stepts that lead to accidents and can stop in time to prevent major mishaps or deaths. Teaching has to include minor failures in order for a worker to learn to prevent.
I DO AGREE THAT WORK PLACE INJURIES ARE EVERYONES RESPONSIBILITY STARTING AT THE TOP OF THE COMPANY TO THE WORKERS ON THE FLOOR. EVERYONES PART IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT WITH COMPANIES INVESTING IN EQUIPMENT TO MAKE A SAFER ENVIORMENT FOR THE WORKERS. THE EMPLOYEES SHOULD BE CONCENTRATING ON THE TASKS IN FRONT OF THEM. THE ONE PROBLEM I SEE IS PRODUCTION IS ALWAYS AHEAD OF SAFETY WITH COMPANIES WANTING MORE IN LESS TIME AND SPEED STILL DOES KILL.
Seriously- earthequake. How on earth do you prevent an EARTHQUAKE?
I find this campaign misguided. I have spent many years with Health and Safety. Management believe in Health and Safety for their workers, until there is a dollar value. Also the employer will do what they can to not have an injury reported. This is especially true with self insured employers. This campaign is placing the onus on the employee to make the work area safe. The employer has the obligation to ensure a safe work place. Why is the responsibility of the employer being omited.
I love this work place debate.
I worked in a food factory for 20 years,work place safety was number one.I can aslo proudly
Say we had 14 years without a lost time accent.
Are you truly this stupid ? The word accident also has a meaning ! Maybe check it out . However , perhaps I’m a bit too dismissive . Evidently , your master plan is that ALL people should do EVERYTHING perfectly ALL of the time. WOW ! What a revelation you irreconcilable twits !
I absolutely agree that workplace injuries are everyones responsibility from the management down to production area. But, the big question is, how to prevent or to lessen injuries at work>? At first,we need guidelines, proper information, without the support of your company to implement to everyone not only on a designated area in which they needed but it should be for everybody such for an example:To have a safety shoes, so you can have a stable standing position at work but it should be comfortable and light with a great holding grip of rubber underneat, properly labelled some of the safety hazard chemicals, proper kind of gloves to be use at work and many more to mention but it should be implement properly by your company, ask some suggestions, concerns from your subordinates and there should be monthly meeting to improve safety work place in your company
Although many environmental and human factors must be recognized. I beleive all are preventable, proper tools and a healthy alert mind are of the upmost importance.
All incidents CAN be prevented. I’ve been in the manufacturing industry all my life, and I’ve never seen or heard of the mythical “freak accident”. There is always something that could have been done to prevent it from happening.
But I do agree with those of you who hate this campaign. It’s lame. I could see this campaign making the “bubble wrap” people think that they are right.
i think each and every workplace injuries are human error.
Management generally realizes the repucussions of what could happen when health and safety is ignored. However in our company our workers try to slip one passed the goalie so to speak and ignore all of the rules set in place to protect their safety and well being
How long has save work been implemented, enforced and documented? Yes it’s EVERYONE’S responsibility. If you see something on the ground, pick it up. If you see that there’s a potential for a work place hazard such as a hazardous atmosphere environment, do a prejob meeting and discuss everyone’s responsibilities and tasks during the work day/shift.
Come on people, this has been going on for years, why this debate now? And where the hell is common sense? Yes I agree some people don’t have it, but that’s what training is for. For example: If a person doesn’t know how to use a drill press, they could cause damage to the equipment or even serious injury to self or people around.
As a whole, everyone needs to help and prevent injuries and hazards by training, leading by example, taking action and reporting hazardous environments to supervisors and discussing this with your coworkers, and so on and so forth…
That’s my 2cents…
Time to change our way of thinking. Everyone (the president, the supervisor, the worker, etc.) is responsible for safety in the workplace. All injuries, accidents or illnesses are preventable. Some workplaces are better than others but all can do valuable work and planning to prevent injuries. The number one reason why something in the work place does or does not get done is cost. This philosophy must change. Safety and preventing injuries sholud be the number one reason as the why and how a job gets done. All workers and familys need to know when they leave for work each morning that they will return home alive and injury free. Each year more than one worker is killed every day as a result of an accident in the workplace. For all you debaters that think this is a waste of time, I suggest that you talk to one of these families. Time for change is needed now.
i fully agree, and i hope to create this culture in my company
good f#!ng luck ppl are dum
not all workplace injuries can be prevented.
you can take all the steps you want, and as many safety inspections as you want but in the end we are human, and as humans we make mistakes.
This is the worst campaign I’ve ever come across in my life. What a waste of taxpayer money!!!! The only thing worse than this campaign and concept is the last one with the 300 billboards around Winnipeg of the devil drug addict guy.
Absolutely pathetic. A complete joke. A complete waste of people’s money and time. I can see this campaign causing more suicides from people being exposed to it than it preventing any accidents.
get your awful ads off my tv losers…
I agree this TV add is a big waste of money.
But for my part accident are preventable incident are not. accident are something that even with all precaution taken it couldn’t bin prevented, but they are very rare an unlikely to happen. but in the other hand incident are totally preventable, but with the new generation coming in and the old going out, more and more people are to busy, in a rush , and “sorry “so f*!ng dum. hey sh!t going to happen. It the economy that want that. on on hand you got to do production and quality but on the other one if you dont you get replace by a machine.
and that go back to the point that this add is a big waste of tax money that should go back in our community not on TV. paper poster and pushing on training cost less.
to the question ( are all workplace accidents preventible) well ,,,no because we are human and all humans make mistakes and we can take every safety precaution there is and someone forgets or whatever it may be they make a mistake ,,get a grip quit wasteing our money !
Workplace injury can be preventable, but it’s not practical.
Not all injuries are preventable – and I’m not just talking about human error accidents.
Where I work – in a hospital ICU with unconscious patients – we are subject to back/shoulder/neck/arm strain all the time. There is no such equipment that holds 300+ pound dead weight (unconscious patient = dead weight) while we wash the back, wipe and clean the feces and change the bed sheets. It’s all human strength to hold that patient while the wiping is done. And of course we never, EVER get enough staff and often have several patients like this at one time. Repeat this a few times a shift and you get big time fatigue and strains.
Solution – more staffing. Reality – not going to happen.
NO! All work place injuries are not preventable.
Trying to suggest that all injuries are preventable is just a blatant attempt to find someone to blame.
Who are they blaming jambroni. Be more careful!
All workplace injuries are preventable there is scientific theories. Read up on the domino theory developed by Herbert W. Heinrich. All accidents and injuries are preventable it just matters if the accident that causes the injury is foreseen.
Asteroid crashes onto work site.
Its preventable, yes, but I don’t think that every company wants to “Asteroid-proof” their work sites.
So, in your opinion, a theory makes something true? I think you should go and reread the definition of “theory”.
Heinrich is out-dated. Heinrich’s supposed ‘law’ states that for every major injury caused by an accident, there are 29 accidents with minor injury, and 300 accidents that cause no injury. This is not a ‘law’ this is a statistical observation, which has changed and will continue to change over time.
The larceny of this campaign is that we all know that work-place inuries will always happen because accidents happen. The tax-dollars spent on this lark should have been spent developing better inspection procedures, better work-place safety incentives and investigating violators.
this is my point also……….accept that we do not live in a perfect society and there will be accedents We pay these premiums to be covered not to be blamed we could of prevented. quit wasting our money on stupidity of avertisement that say
all can be prevented
If you could tell the future, then yes all work place injuries could be prevented. But in the real world we don’t have that luxury, we live in a real cold climate that contributes to equipment faliure, such as metal fatuige and so on. It is an ignorant thing to sugest that ALL work place injuries are preventable.
i would smash my head off a curb if it would mean not seeing this ad campaign anymore
the ratman signing out
I have worked in construction for 24 years. And this campaign is a complete and utter waste of time. You could NEVER eliminate injuries. This is getting out of hand. The people pushing the safety are not people that care about our safety. Its people that want job security and more money so they just keep adding more and more rules and NOW they say you can eliminate all injuries. And when we continue to have injuries, which will always happen, they will blame the people actually working hard and doing their job. While these people sit back and make money off people getting hurt. If you want people to take safety seriously, don’t be so ridiculous. and stop wasting money and time.
i work construction as well. i am a health and safety offier now.before knowing the statistics in ijuries in work place .i too felt the same way, how ever with educating myself i now know that many of those injuries are perventable. it may not pervent it 100% but it will cut it down.when you work safe; others beside you are able to work safe.
The posts here by critics seem steeped in anger and not providing constructive conversation. This response by Rick is lame. Rick, you don’t add credibility by spelling words wrong or by not using caps to start a sentence. Lets get real folks.
So what’s that to do with health and safety!
You call yourself a Health and Safety Officer and you are educated…. Well in education they teach you how to spell knuckle head and it is CRSP not CHSO idiot. This comes from a true Occupational Health and Safety Student. What a disgrace….;
Let her who is without grammar sin cast the first stone. Your use of the word “idiot” is juvenile and mean spirited. Concentrate on the point and not on your false sense of superior intellect. We are never as smart as we would like to think we are.
Also, it is ‘mean-spirited’. It is not ‘mean spirited’. I cast the first stone.
First you have to “educate” and Government staff in place that are informed of workplace hazards. Not by the “Cake Decorators” and “office staff” that know nothing about on the job issues.
You are absolutely right chrissy these type of uneducated people are working as health and safety officer but they dont know abcd of safety.
I can see why you have been in contruction for 24 years, your opinion matches your Neanderthal way of thinking. Any campaign that causes one to think about what good health & Safety is should be viewed with enthusiasm and not condemnation. I worked in the Aircraft industry for 2o years. I suffered a career changing injury that caused me to undergo vocational retraining. I also suffered a crush injury to my hand that could have been prevented with a good communication process in place before the job was started.
It is always better to be proactive in regards to safety then reacative, the human cost is the main concen, not job security. What about the injured workers job security had good safety practices been in place to prevent the injury that caused the career ending injury.
Anyone who’s worked on a major construction project in this province will tell you what a blatent self serving piece of hypocracy this is! The responses from workplace health and safety to issues on sites I’ve been on range from ignorance to indifferance. It took weeks of calling almost daily just to get an inspector on site just to look at the problem, which did result in a stop work order if the issue wasn’t corrected within 2 weeks. The issue was never resolved, the inspector never returned, work went on. I’ve got the right to refuse unsafe work? The employer has the right to lay me off for “lack of production”.
As a business owner I can supply all the safety equipment and training in the world and common sense still has to be used to avoid accidents. It just feels to me like the employer has to comply with more and more regulations and expense.
I think that though safety is certainly everyone’s responsibility, the onus is more so on the employer to provide safe working environments. I have worked in various places that were completely unsafe. One place in particular where my boss had the nerve to demand a certain type of footwear, high heels actually, and the diswasher sprayed water all over the hardwood floors, which obviously then became very slippery and the kitchen was in the basement, down a flight of tiled steps. It was ridiculous and I refused to wear the “required footwear” but a lot of the other girls were younger and too scared to refuse, so risked their necks for a silly waitressing job, because the boss intimidated them into thinking they had to.
The reason the government is wasting money with this campaign is likely tied to the fact that there are so many people in society milking the system. They get hurt and they sit on unemployenmt as long as possible (because they are lazy and that’s likely why they got hurt in the first place…you know who you are!) so that when someone legitimately gets hurt at work, the government is so tired of paying out already to the low life’s that are milking it. So now they are trying to be proactive instead of retroactive, when in the end accidents will always happen-that’s why they are called accidents. And so aside from making rules and regulations so sticky and intense that it takes 3 times the amount of time to complete a task (according to the”new rules”), there isin’t a whole lot that this campaign will accomplish.
Most people travel blindly through their worday daydreaming or otherwise not paying attention. That makes everyone culpable. The solution to workplace injuries is to wake up to your surroundings, consider the consequenses of your action / inaction then do something about it.
Abraham Lincoln once said “bad facts make bad laws.” The people making those ridiculous commercials and statements like all workplace injuries are avoidable should probably step out of there padded office cubbicles and get out here in the real world for a few days.
I have a six month old baby and every time this commercial comes on TV, she breaks out in tears and it takes forever to calm her. These ads are horrible for all to witness and should be removed off the airwaves. I find myself running for the remote like a nutcase trying to shut the TV off as soon as it comes on to try to avoid an inevitable breakdown. These ads should be banned, an underlying evil lurkes in them.
Steps can be taken to prevent all accidents however that assumes all people review and understand the preventitive mearsures and take the precautions to heart. As long as people have the “can’t happen to me” attitude or feel it is 100% up to the employer to procect and anticipate every single action of the worker accidents will continue to occur.
yes they are. you just have to notice every little detail and think in your mind, can this cause an injury?
My Problem with the safety in the workplace is the long range effect the wear and tear has on your body….. doing the same movements over and over take it’s toll. In today’s world Doctors’ and Employeers’ and Gov’t WSIB people aren’t on the same page with this….you must have an exact date to injury….??? So if your shoulder or hips or back suffer from long range effects ??? What does one do…. ???
As time goes by more and more we “blame” people for being human. Every employer seems to want employees that are like computers, there on the worst winter days, never sick, never having a personal need, or even a mood or attitude. Truth is that even computers crash and an accident will always be an accident.
There will always be accidents and dealing with real cards is not so insulting.
There is nothing wrong with wanting both employees and employers to adhere to safety concerns on work sites. There is nothing wrong with wanting everyone on board with a common goal. Obviously every time an accident is prevented there are winners. Anyone who knowingly engages in unsafe practices or encourages someone else to needs to be subjected to endless workplace safety films. Unfortunately in my limited experiences they were pretty boring.
Companies could have crews script accidents specific to their work and submit them as in a contest. The winning ones could be made into something similar to the minute minder that Public Insurance in Manitoba uses to promote safe driving.
A better motto would be something like “Work accidents going the way of the dodo”
The goal of reduction remains and it takes on a realistic goal.
I agree that some workplace accidents can be prevented. Often times what a worker does the night before on his time off affects his work performance the next day. But, some accidents are completely unexpected…nothing is 100% preventable. There are freak accidents as well.
All workplace injuries are preventable. It’s more like learning from mistakes, you get hurt because you don’t know you will get hurt if you do certain task but if someone will tell you don’t do that because I get hurt when i did that, then you just prevented your own accident. It is more like educating yourself and other workers on how to work and avoiding injuries.
All work place injuries are preventable, for sure. Especially the lung cancer caused by this monkey show of a ministry allowing smoking in hotels and inns. Shame on you work place health and safety.
I think you COULD prevent all work place injuries.. it obviously wouldn’t be easy and would take major efforts by all works and the businesses they work for to change their expectations so that their work place is always kept up to safety standards. I just don’t think people are willing to make the efforts, we’re lazy and don’t think things through. Plus, workplaces probably wouldn’t be willing to go to the efforts of proving safer working conditions, especially in regards to issues around long-term effects of repetition, because it would take time and money to alter the way work is done to avoid this. So although I believe it is possible to prevent all work place injuries, I don’t think its realistic to suggest it will happen, but it is definitely something to strive for. There needs to be some major changes in the way people work, and thats not just regarding safety either.
I believe that work place injuries are only preventable up to a point. There is no doubt that a majority of injuries could be prevented with proper lifting, exercise, and teamwork, but there will always be a margin of error and a small percentage of unpredictable accidents that will occur not because of neglect or lack of planning, but because someone zigged when they should have zagged.
yes, all injuries are preventable, but all parties involved (management and employees)should have an equal responsability in this matter ,and do not make it part of the “blame “game.
Work as a team towards the safe goal because both parties have a lot to gain in this matter
Injuries simply are not all preventable. People are sometimes clumsy or not paying attention and things happen outside human control.
Oh I hate this campaign with a passion. There is a little too much saturation between radio and television I don’t need to be reminded 10 times a day, everyday.
I am 20 years old and work making transformers for the past 2 years. I have personally seen many injuries take place in my time working in my plant, and i have also been injured many times. If you are working in a dangerous environment, my answer is yes you can make it LESS likely to hurt someone or yourself, but to eliminate injuries from workplaces completely is totally imposable no matter how many protocols are put in to play and no matter how many people obey them. There will always be that risk of “freak accident” anywhere you work, weather it be an equipment malfunction, or just a random chain of events leading to something happening, something WILL happen. The most anyone can do for them selfs is speak up more if you see something that might lead to injuries, i have seen too many people just walk away from things that will hurt them because they don’t want to get hurt, but then say nothing, and it happens to someone else. i hope that they plan to do something about this in the near future, as to everyone else, think safe all the time, don’t keep your mouth shut (the employer is not allowed to get you in trouble for raising questions about human safety), and stay alive.
yes it can be prevented. Not always by you but by someone else. I am presently at home injured because of someone elses neglegent. I need an operation on my back but will never be as good as new.
Yes they are but seem to be rarely policed. Instead of all moneys going to advertising, more should be spent on the front lines.
It is unfortunate, but some people are so “stupid”, or not aware, that accidents always happen. I have had a person (named Terry Michel) bump into a ladder twice while I was cleaning a ceiling for this clown. The guy also knocked his own teeth out with a stack frying pans. Not kidding. Some people are just morons, and the thing is we have to be more careful because of it. I suggest that everyone be aware of what is happening around them so these people only hurt themselves.
It is everyone’s responsibility to do all they can to prevent workplace injuries – including refusing to do dangerous work if proper safety is not in place. |You can’t eliminate injuries but you CAN reduce their likelihood. The onus is always on the employer first but all must take part.
I think that we can do what we can to be safe whether at work or at home, but accidents will always occur, no matter how careful people are. We are not perfect, we do not always work under perfect conditions, or in a state of perfect mental awareness. Accidents will continue to occur, not matter how many rules and regulations are put into place… That’s why it’s called “an accident” and not “an on purpose”!!
Can someone please explain to the annoying guy in the red shirt, what accident means. The only people who don’t make mistakes (accidents) are people who don’t work. (just talk a bunch of garbage) Also tell him once he has stopped accidents in the work place, he should stop all accidents on the road. My MPIC rates might go down. Goodness know WCB rate sure don’t ever go down.
Injury prevention is not a cut and dry situation. Unfortunately, production takes priority over saftey. I have been working in industry for over 30 yrs. When you get down to root cause of accidents ,yes people can do things differently,and yes other ways Can be found,but that infers that management will spend money on equipment necessary or will allow time to have things done safely. Unfortunately, if production takes second place than things more often than not will be done the fastest way possible,as apposed to the safest way possible.
I took a big dump.
My employer entered the washroom.
He started to choke, he couldn’t handle my stink.
He slipped and fell and now he’s dead.
I lost my job.
How was this preventable?!
The comments so far clearly indicate how much work is required to reduce injuries. My kid will soon be an adult. I will not let him work for a company or with co-workers that simply accept that injuries are inevitable.
Would any of you let your kids work where you work? If not, what are YOU going to do to change that?
Yes, I beleive that it is everyones responsibility for injuries to some extent. If you know there is a chance an injury could happen, you should bring it to someones attention.
I have been telling my work place that there is an accident waiting to happen, but there was nothing done about it. Now I have a back injury, was off work for 1 1/2 weeks went back to work and only lasted 3 short shifts. Returned to the doctor and he gave me a letter stating that I was to be on light duties. The work place made sure for the first 4 shifts that I had someone work with me to do all my lifting, bending,pushing,pulling, and stooping. But the fifth shift, there was no one because I was told they were short workers. So now tell me, why am I paying $20 for each doctor’s note, if they are not going to insure that I will be doing light duties. Also the work place says they have a BACK TO WORK PROGRAM. I am to return to my Doctor again in three days to see if I can go back to normal duties.And paid another $20. What is the point, if I have been doing normal duties because they can’t cover me. I feel I have done what I can do to prevent further injury, but they haven’t.
I am afraid that the “All accidents are preventable” is a justification to eliminate Workers’
Am I correct
I complete all the accident forms and WCB reports for my workplace. I have yet to come across a workplace accident that was not preventable. Even something as simple as paying attention to what you are doing, slowing down when working with safety sentitive equipment and ASKING FOR HELP will make a big difference. We see the most accidents towards the end of a shift and with new colleagues. Managers should be constantly reminding colleagues to work safely and leading by example.
I agree that you will never eliminate all workplace injuries, but educating and making everyone responsible will certainly decrease them!
I recently lost my job due to a workplace health and safety issue (required to drive a forklift) i had asked my boss on several occasions for forklift certification and it just fell on deaf ears. Then i finally contacted health and workplace safety and was told that i had to be certified to operate a forklift.
Health and workplace safety did their inspection it was found that the company was in serious violations and were given four weeks to correct the issues, found out later that there was no follow up from health and safety then was told by my boss that my job no longer existed.
SO MUCH FOR HEALTH AND WORKPLACE SAFETY one lesson i have learned from all of this dont complain or you could just loose your job and in these economic time who needs that.
The idea of” all accidents are preventable” is foolish my employer is making it their goal and to implment this. they are repremanding all employees that are involved in an insedent and manipulate the facts to reflect the employee as always at fault.This is not reallistic or fair to any one except the employer. this is the way they can claim “all accidents are preventable”
and its their way of making it look like they have a good safety record.
Their lack of on the job training is to blame for a good number of insedents.Putting fear into the new employees is their way of making them not report a good number of accidents.
I totally agree with Vomori. All accidents are not preventable. It is totally a justification to eliminate workers’ compensation.
It is ridiculous to think that all accidents are preventable as people can NOT see into the future. Ridiculous. Get a life and stop convincing people everything is their fault.
Sometimes injuries are caused by manufacture defects of tools and machines or devices we use in our workplace. You can educate workers on tools and machines have a maitenance programs quality assurance programs for manufactures but it will always not detect flaws only reduce them. Remember workers comp is paid by the employer??? I know I pay for long term disability insurance this I feel should be paid for by the employer. What do you think that says.
Well,I feel that it is everyones’ responsibility to help out and protect everyone else in the work-field. It’s all apart of being aware of what’s around you…instead of scurrying to and fro like some robot. Just take the time people to breathe in a little common sense.
I also believe that company ownership needs to be responsible for educational workshops and dilogent testing of wormk-place facilties.
I believe that all employees need to look out for everybody else. Just take a moment to breathe in common sense,instead of surrying about like robots.
I also believe that company ownership needs to focus on educational workshops and work-place safety hazards.
Like many of the comments, I too feel that saying that all workplace injuries are preventable is redundant. Besides, they are technically NOT all preventable. Some things happen at work that are out of anyone’s control – especially in professions with a high degree of natural hazards (like crab fishing or logging). The only way to prevent these injuries are to simply not do them. To say otherwise is insulting to workers in these industries who do everything possible to stay safe.
Anyways, I disagree with people who comment that his ad campaign is a waste of money. It got them not only thinking more about workplace safety, but also writing their opinions down on a blog site. We need more critical thought in this country and this ad campaign has done the trick.
Think of it as Evolution in Action. If someone is stupid enough to climb a tall ladder with no one holding it, then let them be removed from the gene pool. All sarcasm aside, though, almost all workplace accidents are preventable if people only use common sense, and companies invest in proper training in the first place. To say that all accidents are the fault of the company is unacceptable.
If someone is injured due to their own incompetance, they should be sumarily fired, and not entitled to one red cent of government money.
Harsh, true, but it’s a harsh world.
I wish that Worksafe would find better ways to spend everyones money rather than spending (???how much money) on the ridiculous ad campaigns on t.v. Maybe they could go back to the job they’ve been employed to do and that is to make sure that people that are injured on the job have their needs met? I’m guessing that the worksafe ads are rhetoric , as there appears to be no valuable message? I think we all need to say enough and get back to the task at hand. Stop the empire building and misdirection of valuable resources!
As long as we are human there will be accidents, WCB is trying to follow MPIC in there “no fault insurance”. Once WCB goes no fault, your payments in event of a work place injury WILL BE LIMITED. This whole campaign is nothing more than smoke and mirrors to try and change they way they pay out.
STOP PLAYING THESE F UCKIN commercials! THEY SUCK! and you guys play them like a million times a day. Listening to these commercials makes me want to cause workplace injuries. God damn it already. Most annoying 2 guys ever.
In trying to build a culture of safety within an organization or construction company, it takes repeated safety talks and demonstrations, and yes commercials, for it to become the norm. Having worked in extremely dangerous conditions with a construction company in Northern Manitoba the past year and a half (as the Construction Safety Officer), I can honestly say that there is a measurable difference in our culture from when I arrived to today. We even have several individuals within our crew that other members talk about as buying into that culture and everyone can see the difference in their attitude. When new crew members join us today, may speak about that culture and express their desire to continue working for this company, due to the fact that we do not take safety for granted. When I read the negative comments from those below I simply shake my head and know that they would not last a day with our company. Want an example –9400 hours worked – 782 crew members through the door – 0 incidents! And that was for December only.
Bob – CSO
And what the hell does what you mentioned bob have to do with these retarded commercials which are on literally every 5 minutes during every commercial break? NOTHING!
I’ve been working in the industry for 37 years and I still have all my fingers and all other body parts as well as a lot of scars and sore muscles. Im not saying a safey commity is a waste of time and money But in the places I’ve work across canada I’ve noticed that most incidents “not all” were the result of lack not just training but familiarity with the situation at hand. If your company can really say with that many employees there were no injuries they must be the best trained gang in the county or there isn’t any work getting done. It all good to say we have No accidents but is that because the employees don’t report bumps and bruises and “little things” ( Im sure you know what I mean) that can later give them trouble. and if they did would this incedents be reported. Railways
half the workplace IS people. unless you’re saying you can inspect and control every person working, accidents will happen – hence ‘accident’. stop this stupid campaign please.
To enraged – Only half your workplace is people? Are those people not responsible for their own action? Are their actions – good or bad – capable of causing an injury to someone who works beside them? Do you figure this cannot be stopped? Evey person in the workplace has a responsibilty to ensure they and those around them get out in one piece. But it is comforting to know that when your actions get someone seriously hurt, you will be the first to say – Sorry , it was an accident. And there was no way I could have prevented it!
To railways – 37 years and lots of scars and sore muscles. Good record. Know anyone who has lost a hand or limb, or their life because they were not paying attention? Or someone else wasn’t? Could your scars and sore muscle have been prevented? Most likely right?
To Chris – My response to the ads is close to most. I think they do run a few too many times. But in trying to build a culture, or change an attitude, it takes a great effort and a lot of communication. The ads at least get people to discuss the topic. And after reading all the negative responses that an accident is going to happen whether you believe in safety or not, I felt the need to say my piece. I discuss with our crew (25-50 workers) that their attitude goes a long way to stopping the needless accidents and incidents that happen within the workplace. If a persons attitude is one that an accident is going to happen regardless, we do not want them on our site. Because with them around, it will happen. People take shortcuts for all kind of reasons. That 2 or 3 minutes saved can lead to 5 – 10 hours in emergency, and then another 3 months to a lifetime to get healthly. I have heard once to many times ” I thought it would save me some time” or ” I didn’t think that would happen to me” or the ever famous ” It was only for a second” Those phrases have cost our our workers, the company and myself considerable hours (days) in picking up the peices. Ever spent 5 hours in emergency with an injured worker who is wondering how his life has changed because they , or someone else, thought safety was a joke? It is not fun. Sure accidents happen for a whole variety of reasons. But if we can get people to stop – look – assess and manage the hazards around their work, there will be a lot less people hurt needlessly on the job.
I do not fully agree that ALL work place injuries are preventable.I do agree that most are though. If you work in a factory you are able to think ahead and prepare your workspace area so it should be safe–although sometimes machines, or equipment will malfunction and could cause injury. Also, human beings are not perfect people and everyone makes mistakes. We live in a stressful society (i.e. high-rising utilities, taxes, etc., family issues, etc.) that put alot of pressure on us and create alot of stress.
As for myself, I work in a nursing home. I love the co-workers and residents I work with. But here too, there is alot of stress(alot of pressure to work 12 hour shifts, or more, to work full-time or more). We have alot of dementia with our residents. You cannot always be able to think ahead what a person with dementia will do and be ready for it. But you can make sure you use proper body mechanics when working to prevent some injuries. Also, the employer should try not to push an employee back to work too soon after an injury.
If everyone did their part, as well as using some common sense, workplace accidents could be preventable. As the employee co-chair in our worplace, I am aware of ALL our workplace injuries. Everyone of them could have been prevented….including my own. Proper training, equipment, being aware, slowing down a bit, focusing on the task, and using plain old fashioned common sense works to prevent injury. This does not mean we are responsible for our own accidents. It means we all need to spot hazards and do something about it. I have learned that I need to be a loud voice in our workplace in order to get management to put things in place…like PPE, working lifts, etc. I have chosen to be a voice and activist, not a wimp and complainer.
Are we talking acute or chronic injuries? What type of workplace are we talking? Fully controlable or open? Every work environment is different so the preventability and responsibilty lines move. It is not a simple answer and simple generic solutions should not be applied.
You could be told how to lift thingsd properly and make sure your work area is clean and tidy. Hwever if you have just started working, there could be hidden hazards you might nort be aware of. I once worked at the dreaded Dollarama. There are boxes on top of boxes piled to the ceiling on the shelves onthe sales floor because the stock room is over crowded with unsold crap. The ladders are only 3 step stools and you were to lift, sometimes, over 50 lbs over your head to get the junk youi can’t find room onthe4 shelves for and stack them up. Once I put a large box up there and had to slide the box and all I heard was something fall in the next aisle from me and one of the coworkers said ow.
She came up to me with a small flat-ish box and reamed me out about not sliding the boxes on top of the shelves. How was I to know there was a box I could not see up there.
I think there is alot of carelessness from employers that are often managing at minimum wage jobs who intimidate employees from taking action. That has to change.
safe work is every ones reponsiablty the emplyer too i work at hydro dam in mb and have seen the company put safty over production i think that there hast to be more training on the company side with the formans supervisers
Employees and employers think that “that wouldn’t happen to them…. they do things that are unsafe based on unsafe conditions thinking that they will not get hurt.
Yes, it is possible to eliminate workplace however, after reading the posts on this page I realize we all have a long way to go.
It is all about changing attitudes. To those fatalists who believe we cannot, you are simply trying to pass blame. Everyone in the workplace needs to shoulder the responsibility. This means from the boss to the worker doing work. If naysayers forever keep referencing events in the past there will never be change.
I challenge everyone to learn from the past and move on.
On the enforcement side there will always be those who try to circumvent the system. It would be naive to think that everyone is honest and fair. It is for that reason there will always be a need for a “cop”.
After all like I said its all about changing attitudes.
I say people should be responsible for there own doings . is your not capable of working in the work surroundings u do and u also dont feel safe or cant do the job right to the point where ur gunna get hurt then why be there ..
A safe workplace is everyones responsability a large part of making the workplace safe is the employer, but the worker has a responsability to follow all safe work procedures and wear all the appropriate personal protective equipment and inform their supervisor of any unsafe work conditions. Its the responsability of the supervisor to make sure that the workers are following safe work procedures and to make sure that all workers are supplied with the equipment to work safely. So in turn a safe work environment is everyones responsability from Management to supervisors and workers.
Every workplace injury can be prevented, but not every workplace injury WILL be prevented. Through education, communication, and preventative maintenance, so many injuries have and will continue to be avoided. Unfourtunately hindsight is 20/20, and it usually requires a serious error before safety measures are taken seriously.
Each profession comes with a certain level of risk, often very different from the next. Injury can be a result of your own negligence, a coworker, or even a direct result of a civililian. It only takes a moment to forever alter someone’s life. Or to end it. Accidently.
No one wants to carry the guilt of knowing that they failed to follow procedure or pay attention for a split second and then….
Yes accidents and injuries can be prevented, but that does not mean they always will be.
Yes they are preventable… You have a obligation as an employee to protect yourself and those you work with… “I always say, Survive your occupation”
Okay we get it. Now STOP playing the ads. Injuries are all 100% preventable – message received. Holy talk about hitting us over the head.
while I believe that employers are responsible keeping the work place safe and clean there are things that just can’t be avoided and accidents”will happen” no matter what.
we all know that accidents are preventable…..and still we continue to see them happening on a far too frequent basis. why?
is it because we all have a different perception of acceptable risk? are we in a hurry, just this time? we’ve done it like this for 15 years………
good luck safety people!
Everyone should work towards keeping their workplace safe. It’s in our best interests.
It is foolish to make a “blanket statement” that “All Workplace Injuries are Preventable.”
I guess what else should one expect from Government Beaurocrats that have to justify their overpaid positions that to make such a statement.
Of course, if you look at an “incident” (the political nicey-nice term for accident), in hindsight, they are ALL preventable.
My tax dollars hard at work!!!!
I think some serious attention to the fatigue associated with night shift work would help! I was required to work 60-80 hours in 7 consecutive nights (only unionized workers can be required to do this…biweekly averaging) before I quit my job due to concern for my work-life balance and safety!
everything can be prevented its whether the effort and time spent to making things easier to prevent is shown by a business itself
I agree for sure because I see how we can prevent simple things. Exp. Have a glass of water were children run around? It can fall and spill and a child can slip and brake its leg. Simple put the glass of water some place were it can not be spilled or only pore a glass of water and drink till done and pore the rest. Simple but easy done.
I try to be safe, everyone should , its an individual and goup effort !
I agree that a safe work place is important, but the responsibility should not just be with the employer, there are many steps that need to be taken by the employee including using common sense, and workers policing each other to make the work place safe for everyone…
Having had a significant injury I find your commercials very offence. Every time I had to lift, move someone I always did it in away that I would not get injuried or so I thought. It is a well know fact that the majority of injuries occur after repetative movements (injuries) not a single event. I certainly did not go to work trying to get injuried as your commericals seem to suggest.
I don’t think that they are suggesting anyone tries to get injured. Simply, that we as workers shouldn’t be doing something that will lead to injury. Even if it is something that won’t lead to immediate injury, but injury down the road, this isn’t acceptable. If it’s going to cause injury down the road, there is opportunity to find a solution that would prevent it. EASY!
I believe workplace safety begins with the Owner/Management and continues throughout the workforce. If Management and/or Workers are aware of a problem/dangerous area, all heads should be put together to Identify the problem, find a resposible solution and implement that solution. Workplace safety involves EVERYONE and with proper SAFE awareness and SAFE planning, WORKPLACE accidents would soon be a thing of the past.
Hey guys; tell me. How many of you have made a difference because of this campaign?
How many of you have actually learned something?
And how many of you have just looked at this.. and KNOW that its just another troll ad? (like me)
The art or science of developing a safe workplace is all about having control of situations that could result to incidents – be it injury, near miss, or machine breakdown. No one could say “THERE ARE JUST THINGS BEYOND MY CONTROL”. The fact is, everthing is controllable if everyone at stake is willing to give time and thought about creating a safer workplace.
It’s all about everyone communicating and cooperating with one another. Too many are too self-absorbed and self-indulgent people who refuse to work at improving their environment. They say; “It’s not MY job, let someone else do it.” This attitude perpetuates the problem and workplace “accidents” continue unabated. Try working and communicating together and see what a difference can be made. You’ll never know for sure until you TRY!
I listened to a group of guys I work with have this debate during coffee the other day and was amazed at how many ideas came from the younger staff that would actually work to reduce accidents. The naysayers here have it all wrong, there is a lot we can do to reduce accidents in almost every workplace.
Here are a couple of examples of what the “young guys” said where I work:
1. Why do you keep the respirators in a cupboard, locked up and hidden away? Put them by the entrance to the paint booth, where they are handy. That way we can find them easily and you’ll get off our backs.
2. We don’t need to hold everyone’s hand to make them work safe, but surely we could train some of the new guys who work here, they don’t even come close to the standards we have been working too. They would do it right if you’d just train them.
3. There are a lot of accidents here, and most of it has to do with house keeping. If we could just stop and clean up once in a while we’d actually get more done in the long run.
The workplace is everyone’s responsibility from management to supervisor to worker to workplace officer. All parties have to start and continue to work and educate together to strive for a safer workplace. Listening to each other in the workplace and communicating the safe and smart way to work will only benifit everyone in the long run. This saves dollars, lives, business and helps creates a future workforce that is more aware of the issues and learns how to create an active uninjured working environment. Instead of complaining take the time to be involved in how to make change with all parties input.
What is the question – prevention or responsibility?
All workplace injuries are not my responsibility and all injuries cannot be prevented. case closed… move on…nothing to see here folks.
I agree all work place accidents are preventable. However what we have lost in industry is mentorships. We think we can solve all the problems with documentation and we forget educating people to make good decisions. Your campaign is good but lacks the realism of a normal work place therefore hard for some workers to relate to.
Most injuries are preventable if hazards and accidents are identified and investigated for root cause e.g. lack of policy, procedures, training, appropriate and available equipment, non-compliance and inadequate supervision. In some instances where a person for instance commits an non-intential violent act due to illness or medication, it may not be foreseen. These situations may be more difficult to prevent especially if they occur in a workplace where they are not expected or anticipated hence they have been rated low for risk. Who would have thought a plane would crash into a building for instance low risk – therefore they may not be a to control program in place to prevent it- but it could happen.
All accidents are preventable. It is culture that has to be practived by a lot of methids but the best is to instill the culture of awarness with your employees so they are spotting the dangers and preventing them before they happen.
I argue about this with my girlfriend who has not taken any workplace safety training and who sits @ a desk all day. Even when I try to explain the health risks of sitting at a desk with a phone in her ear.
I feel there are and should be procedures in place to prevent all accidents and long term disabilities. I have seen first hand what happens to an unaware or untrained employee. Someone can argue this till the sun comes up, but the bottom line is all work place injuries are PREVENTABLE!
I agree with you!! My line of work is to inform people of workplace health and safety and I refer to office work all the time. There are so many ergonomic and physical hazards that accompany workplaces where staff is sitting at a desk. There are so many hazards in simple workplaces that we take for granted.
there is ABSOLUTELY no way to figure out and plan for the many (stupid) things people do to each day at work to save time or just out of laziness. you cannot prevent all injuries at work.
Silliness. I agree most accidents can be prevented, but not ALL. There are ALWAYS things you cannot foresee or think of in advance. It’s THOSE things you may not be able to prevent.
Please don’t ask me to name one, I’m not any better at seeing the unforeseeable than anyone else is.
It is ironic how persons have differing views on H&S in the same workplace. Whether is be sitting at desk in an office, being a cashier at a grocery store or running a jack hammer on a construction site, all persons within that workplace must have the same focus and understanding of H&S. And certainly age has to be taken into effect as well. Can we better prepare young persons before they enter the workforce with views and responsibilties for H&S? How about that person that has been doing the same job for numerous years and liekly without an injury, how do we ensure that they continue to uphold the focus of H&S? It all comes down to culture and certainly what is portrayed, committed to and followed by senior management. Almost a monkey see-monkey do approach.
I think the Province should intervene where employers require unionized workers to work 80 hours in 7 nights…or any full time permanent schedule of nights. Human beings are not designed to tolerate it: the evidence is clear that it poses health and safety risks, occupational health and safety literature recommends against it, but nobody (WRHA, MGEU, Minister of Labour) was of any help to me when I could no longer tolerate it and resigned to protect my health and safety. Would I have been better off to stay until I developed one of the chronic medical conditions associated with night shift work or suffered a fatigue related injury? I didn’t qualify for EIA and am now out of work with no income. I thought my health and safety were important…but only to me I guess.
SAFETY STARTS AT HOME with your children. When I was a kid, I’d help my dad around the house. He was a stickler for safety. “Never mow the lawn without foot protection,” was his first cardinal rule.
Another ‘dad rule’ was, “After finishing a cut with your circular saw, do not place it on the floor until it’s stopped running (even though the automatic guard springs back into position) else, one day, the guard could get jammed open (it happened to me a couple of times), and the spinning blade will bite into the floor, spin around in an arcing motion, and cut your toes off, even with safety boots on.”
Oh, one addition, “Always wear goggles when using a circular saw.”
I could probably write a chapter of ‘dad’s safety rules’. But, the point is, I got safety drilled into me at an early age, and its suck.
I see both sides of the debate. I see less injuries on almost all job sites when there is a comprehensive training program in place. When an employee is trained to the proper standards required for a job the risk is greatly reduced.
However, experience also tells that there is always a new situation, unseen, unprepared for and 98% of the time, resulting in a new training procedure brought on by an accident. Some things, no matter how careful and “on top of it” everyone is, just happen.
Example? Working on plumbing. All items pre-checked for safety issues. None seen. Work proceeds. Hot water tank explodes a few feet away. Danger Unseen, unprepared for, unexpected. Injury avoided by “due diligence”; safety boards set up to prevent us heating the tank!
Not All workplace safety issues can be prevented. But awareness of the dangers can be enhanced to prevent injury in case of such situations.
Workplace accidents come from controlled work situations, proper training and worksafe procedures can eliminate workplace accidend. Now acts of God cannot be controlled, eg. a gust of wind blows a tree down on top of a worker clearing brush could not have been forseen. Developing a worksafe mindset in young employees, supervisors and employers has proven to reduce accidents statics signifcantly. The timelost costs caused by accidents are still much higher than costs of safe work training programs but they are getting closer, I would sooner have money spent trying to prevent even one accident than ignorantly doing nothing. Ask a friend who has had a life changing accident and see if he thinks some safety eduction would have helped prevent it.
I think it is absured to think that all injuries are preventable that is what accedents are about. if we lived in a perfect society it would be all play no work (not realistic)
I was an owner of bussiness yes all injuries can be prevenable. I owned a cab most people come with accidents and stabbed for fight my drivers were trained in a manor of how to prevent that that’s why, i never had and any claim for last 5 years. And my answer is if you go for 30 minutes of gym everyday your mind will be fresh and u can think better
Yes they are everyones responsability. The idea that all accidents are preventable is like Communism; it works in a perfect world,, but as everyone knows, people aren’t perfect. BUT, if everyone takes looks after themselves as well as the person next to them then there are fewer (not none at all) accidents.
No. All work places are not preventable. Evolutionary theory dictates that only the fittest survive. The work-place is not excused. Those who are poorly equipped through training, physical fitness, suitable motor skills or cognitive ability will be susceptible to injury or fatality. Unfortunately, sometimes those same individuals cause injury to others who appear to be well prepared to deal with work-place risks. I guess we can’t really tell who the ‘fittest’ are after all.
Great debate! i really appreciate that we as Manitobans are discussing important issues are health and safety. This discussion needs to extend outside of the workplace as well, and we need to make sure we are safe in our everyday lives.
Yes, at least most of the workplace accidents are preventable but both the company and the worker have to get involved. It cannot be one sided. For example in a packinghouse the conveyers are all the same height. There is workers of all different height. To make the work safe, there should be some stands for short workers to stand on at the proper height such as scissor lifts, which is the company’s responsibility. The workers responsibility is to let his or her foreman know the problem.
i agree with this. Every one in this world should be trained, so no one gets hurt. That would suck if you got hurt by someone elses mistake. ThIs can be prevented if people are more responsibilty. But, no matter what, people are still going to get hurt at work because there alway that jurk at work that doesnt care.
As a first aid and safety officer for over 15 years Manitoba is 5 years behind the ways of safety compared to the Role models of BC and AB. There are alot of young up and coming workers that require extra training and attention. So just because you think this campaign is stupid is your opinion I really hope your ignorance does not get you or someone else killed at your job. Safety is every workers responsibility always has been always will be. Even for the “stupid” people. Never a waste of money either if it saved even one life.
I agree it is everyones responsibility BUT! you can not hold the hand of the person next to you You can only give him advice and or report him to the nearest supervisor and hope the person then governs themself. on such safety matters. as far as I am concern safety is never a waist of time
Whiplash injuries are usually sustained when you are seated in a vehicle and have been struck from behind by another vehicle, but similar injuries can also be sustained in slips, trips and falls.
They should be but they are not, these campaign’s say they are but how can you say safety is everyone’s responsibility when everyone is not accountable.
Workers are never held accountable for their actions no matter how unsafe they are working, no matter how they disregard policies and procedures; the accountability always comes back to the employer. Employers will be told that they failed to ensure that safe work procedures were followed. It is apparently the employer’s job to watch every second of what their employees are doing, and employees are not responsible at all to ensure that they are working safely.
There is no responsibility for government to ensure that its city streets and sidewalks are safe for workers in Manitoba as many workers work in the community.
There is no responsibility for other business to keep their facilities and grounds safe for workers who may need to go there for work reasons.
There is no responsibility for customers or clients to ensure safety; there is not responsibility for contractors
There is no responsibility for the Safety and Health Division or WCB to provide relevant information to workplaces, to conduct appropriate investigations into fraudulent injury claims or to provide
There is no responsibility for anyone other than the employer in the legislation as they are the absolute only ones with any accountability in this process.
Why debate? Everybody knows that SAFETY is a part of everydays way of life. Even when you’re at home at work or at play SAFETY is the name of the game.
The only one responsible for any injury is the injured person or the person who directly caused the injury. If someone swings a large steel pole around and cracks me in the back of the head they are responsible for the injury. If on the other hand I stick my hand into a moving machine of some kind then I am responsible.
A company should provide the proper tools and equipment to its workers and show them how to use them properly. A worker has to take the responsibility for his/her own safety.
This bs of blaming everyone else for stupid moves that everyone makes now and then is just keeping lawyers in business. People need to take responsibility for their own actions.
Nature intended that the slowest and stupidest of the herd be purged off so as not to perpetuate the weakest links, why do we think we can change this?
I think everyone has a responsibility
Yes I agree we havea share duty of care. It is a very serious matter and peoples lives can be changed forever. Making a claim is a persons legal right especially when there is negligence
Anyone who has suffered through whiplash injury knows the pain that accompanies these traumatic injuries.A single whiplash injury can result in lost time at work, major financial burdens and the physical pain. Whiplash injury compensation is important as it affects your family and your ability to maintain your financial responsibilities.
There is no way that all injuries can be prevented. The point behind the campaign is that we can prevent many more injuries than we currently do. I’ve been cut up working in a warehouse, which could have been easily prevented if the other guy pushing had been paying more attention. Yes, it is a human flaw, but with awareness human error can still be reduced.
okay you guys think about this a new worker asks for help to a guy that oviously knows what he is doing and he tell the new worker how to do the job really fast then says got it good then leaves that new worker to do that what he didnt know was gas running(this machine is working with can explode if you dont do it right) while he was doing what he was supposed to the other worker was smoking a joint all of a sudden that worker hears a bang it seemed that the new worker got the gas to explode! could the worker prevent the new worker of getting hurt ?
Just happened to catch this website on safety.
My company (a chemical manufacturer) is making safety the #1 priority for our headquarters and manufacturing plants. They are on a mission to “drive to zero” (reportable accidents).
I can understand and appreciate making employees “more aware” of their surroundings to avoid accidents, but there is no way any company can “eliminate” ALL injuries in the workplace!
I slipped twice down one corridor (two separate occasions months apart). I was walking in FLAT SHOES with rubber soles and was taking my time (not rushing at all). When I mentioned the incidents in my performance review, blaming maintenance of the floor as the culprit, I was “reprimanded” and told to “change my shoes.” I already was wearing the safest shoes possible!!
I learned later that our maintenance crew cleaned the floor a few times per week to keep it shiny and smooth, and while the floor was not wet on those two particular occasions, there was “residue” from the cleaning solvent that made it slippery. There is no way I could have “prevented” the accident when I was walking very slowly at the time ..
Furthermore, two of our employees at plants in Pennsylvania were threatened with their jobs when they reported injuries. They were told to “NEVER LET IT HAPPEN AGAIN.”
Employers want to blame employees for all injuries. Intimidation is illegal, by the way …
i have accident at work 2yrs ago,got my compensation 2 days ago, the lies and forged risk assement statements dating back 7yrs,the training i never received nor anyone else,and nothing been done to stop the accident happening again
it also took me over 2yrs to get non-slip shoes,and 3 months after second accident
I am a supervisor in a busy kitchen in an old folks home. The carers come into the kitchen to make themselves drinks and also come in to get toast etc for residents, which I dont agree with. If an accident occurs between myself and a carer who is to blame? Is it the fault of the home for allowing carers into the kitchen area or will the blame be put onto me as I am supervisor of the kitchen?
How many government bureaucracies do we need. We have workers compensation now they need another group, here goes our tax dollars, so many rules no common sense.
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